560. The $20 Million Mistake Democrats Made with Young Men | David French
7/7/20251 hr 8 min
Sparked by French’s recent New York Times article, “The Democrats’ $20 Million Man Problem,” he and Jordan Peterson discuss the societal failures contributing to male alienation—fatherlessness, loss of purpose, overmedication, and a culture that increasingly pathologizes masculinity. French shares personal insights as a father, veteran, and conservative commentator (Who is regularly published in Liberal outlets), and the two expand on themes of demoralization, the need for intentional rites of passage, and the psychological appeal of figures like Andrew Tate. The conversation closes with a stark agreement—we urgently need to reach young men with empathy, structure, and a meaningful v...
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First 90 secondsJordan Peterson· Host0:00
(instrumental music) I reached out to you for the podcast because I read an article you wrote in The New York Times recently entitled The Democrats' 20 Million Dollar Man Problem, the most positive article that has been published about me in The New York Times.
David French· Guest0:18
Yeah. I really do feel like a lot of the things that are ripping America apart will begin to ease if we can deal with this loneliness, this alienation, this lack of belonging.
Jordan Peterson· Host0:30
How we got here is quite the bloody miracle.
David French· Guest0:33
People were celebrating the demise of men or denying the demise of men or beginning to characterize traditional masculinity as inherently toxic and what that told a lot of young men was not, "Well, you have a problem." It instead was telling these young men, "You are the problem."
Jordan Peterson· Host0:51
(instrumental music) Hello, everybody. So, um, a, a small miracle occurred in, at the end of May this year. Uh, The New York Times wrote a piece that featured me that was positive, or at least mostly positive, and it was entitled The Democrats' 20 Million Dollar Man Problem. It was written by journalist, David French. And David had written a couple of pieces about me and, some positive and