532: Economic Warfare. The Power of Business In America. Sam Rogers, Joe Cruz, Steve Simar.

Jocko Willink· Host0:00

This is Jocko Podcast number 532. And I talk often about, obviously, about the military and what the military does, and the strength of the military. But there's another strength and another force in the world that is equally if not even more important and stronger, and that is economic force. And one of the most important type of economic force in the world is Americans [laughs]. And one of the most important economic forces in America is small businesses. Small businesses are hugely impactful to the economy in America. They're what drive the economy in America. Which brings us to our guests for today. Three gentlemen from vastly different backgrounds who have built and are continuing to grow an American company, and this company is called Symmetry Sauna. And I met these guys as we were building out the new gym here at Victory MMA, which is where we're sitting right now. The new gym at Victory MMA, we had a fire, which incidentally was caused by our old sauna. [laughs] [laughs] So we didn't wanna get that old sauna. We wanted a brand-new sauna, and we searched around to find who was making the best saunas in the, in the country, and really in my opinion, the best saunas in the world. And we ended up with Symmetry Sauna. And so once we brought them in and I saw what they were doing, building business, creating jobs, and basically getting after it, which is a huge