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508: Secrets in the Ashes

6/23/20261 hr 4 min

THIS ONE IS FULL OF THE CRAZIESSSSSSS, FAM! When 31-year-old Patricia Leigh Mills is found dead in her home - the victim of a voracious house fire - the police JUST TAKE HER HUSBAND AT HIS WORD that it was a terrible accident. The husband - a real PEACH of a man named Delbert - remarries less than six months later TO A REAL PIECE OF WORK named Allison Salinas, and this confirms for Patricia's family that her death was no accident. Cut to years later when Allison, now on her fourth marriage, tries to enlist her high school boyfriend to kill husband number 4. And now the internet sleuths are connecting Allison and Delbert to Patricia's death. YEAH, IT'S A LOT - YOU GOTTA JUST COME SCREAM ABOUT IT WITH US!

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First 90 seconds
  1. Patrick Hinds· Host0:00

    All of these kerosene lamps are found where the fire was the most intense. This is arson and murder But, unless you're the fire investigators for whom those kerosene lanterns are, um, what did they call them?

  2. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:09

    Decorative only.

  3. Patrick Hinds· Host0:10

    Yeah. And so the official answer... I'm like, I'm screaming arson.

  4. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:14

    Yes, of course. And murder.

  5. Patrick Hinds· Host0:15

    The official answer is inconclusive.

  6. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:17

    Yes.

  7. Patrick Hinds· Host0:17

    And I'm like, "Well, did anyone talk to them about the freaking padlock?"

  8. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:20

    [upbeat music] Hi, Jillian Benzali.

  9. Patrick Hinds· Host0:28

    Hello, Patrick Hinds.

  10. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:29

    Girl, what are we talking about today?

  11. Patrick Hinds· Host0:31

    This is a Dateline. It's called Secrets in the Ashes, Season 34, Episode 21. When this came out, everyone was up in arms understandably.

  12. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:38

    This is really a crazy, crazy episode.

  13. Patrick Hinds· Host0:41

    So yeah.

  14. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:42

    If you love ones where we meet people that you, like you just hate, like this is just full of bad people.

  15. Patrick Hinds· Host0:46

    And I like- There's been one or two good guys ... that Andrea Canning is not holding back.

  16. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:49

    So Andrea Canning is throwing her journalism degree out the window. Not that she didn't do an incredible job with this, but she's crying, she's yelling.

  17. Patrick Hinds· Host0:55

    I think that's good journalism- Me too ... to say like, "You're full of shit."

  18. Gillian Pensavalle· Host0:57

    Yes, I couldn't agree more.

  19. Patrick Hinds· Host0:58

    Also Peacock- Yeah ... once again, I'm going to say this every time until you fix it.

  20. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:02

    Yes.

  21. Patrick Hinds· Host1:02

    The closed captions on the Dateline episodes are still on a delay.

  22. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:05

    Ugh.

  23. Patrick Hinds· Host1:06

    [laughs] It is very frustrating. It's been years.

  24. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:08

    You made it mad, Peacock.

  25. Patrick Hinds· Host1:09

    But also Dateline doesn't use any lower thirds for anyone's names.

  26. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:13

    That is the my axe to grind.

  27. Patrick Hinds· Host1:14

    And I wanna get the name right and the spelling right.

  28. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:17

    Yeah. Yeah.

  29. Patrick Hinds· Host1:17

    It would be helpful if you're not four sentences ahead when I'm still looking for the name.

  30. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:20

    I couldn't agree more.

  31. Patrick Hinds· Host1:22

    Some of us showed up to work today, Peacock.

  32. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:23

    Can we do a change.org thing up in here?

  33. Patrick Hinds· Host1:25

    I mean, it's, uh, it makes, it just makes me crazy.

  34. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:27

    Same.

  35. Patrick Hinds· Host1:27

    And I know I'm not alone.

  36. Gillian Pensavalle· Host1:28

    No.

  37. Patrick Hinds· Host1:28

    That's it. That's all.

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