50 Shades of Legal Gray
5/24/20261 hr 5 min
Norm Eisen, President Obama's "ethics czar" and founder of Democracy Defenders, talks to Alex Wagner about Trump's latest avalanche of corruption: the $1.8 billion slush fund to pay off Jan. 6 rioters, the IRS immunity announcement, the ballroom, the reflecting pool renovation, the 3,000-plus stock trades placed while in office, and, unfortunately, much more. Together, they unpack how Democrats in Congress — or lawyers outside of it — could stop Trump's slush fund, and what impact this onslaught of self-enrichment, cronyism, and taxpayer abuse may have on the midterm elections.
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First 90 secondsAlex Wagner· Host0:00
[upbeat music] Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Alex Wagner. I know some of you may be tuning in today expecting our conversation with the Michigan Senate candidates on the Democratic side. Well, unfortunately, you're gonna have to wait just a little bit longer. We had to reschedule that conversation to accommodate for an unexpected change in candidates' schedules. But do not worry, we are setting a new date, and we will have more on that very, very soon, so stand by. Today, instead, I wanted to focus on the avalanche of corruption, some folks might just call it theft, coming out of the White House. The $1.8 billion slush fund to pay off January 6th rioters, the announcement that the president and his family are now immune from IRS investigations, the ballroom/bunker/money pit, the reflecting pool, the president's 3,000-plus stock trades while in office. The self-enrichment, the cronyism, the taxpayer abuse, all of it has hit new heights, or should I say new lows. And I wanted to talk to someone who could help me make sense of all of this, but also about what Democrats in Congress and lawyers outside of it can do to fight back.