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5. A Tale of Two Women

6/23/202649 min

In the 1960s and ‘70s, two Afro-Cuban women dominated stages from Havana to New York City. They are La Lupe and Celia Cruz, both virtuosic, vibrant artists. But Fania Records seems to only make room for one woman. One of these women is promoted, while the other is set aside, showing the oppressive mistreatment of women by the music industry. Even still, both of these artists’ legacies persevere. 

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Archival courtesy of “The Dick Cavett Show”  Courtesy of Daphne Productions / Global ImageWorks, The Bronx County Archives at The Bronx County Historical Society Research Library, Mary Kent’s Salsa Talks interviews, Maria Hinojosa for NPR, Craft Recordings, a Concord company, Aurora Flores Hostos Interview, and Maria Hinojosa for Latino USA. This episode also utilizes fair use clips from Enzo GD - Contribution.

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  1. Rosie Perez· Host0:00

    Before we get started, I wanna let you know that you can listen to the entire season of Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York right now ad-free, plus exclusive episodes on Futuro Plus. Our Thing: The Birth of Salsa in Nueva York was made possible by the Mellon Foundation, which seeks to build just communities enriched by meaning and empowered by critical thinking, where ideas and imagination can thrive. Heads up, this episode contains some explicit language. [Instrumental music] Futuro.

  2. Harvey Averne· Guest0:39

    [Instrumental music] [Instrumental music] Special guest star.

  3. Rosie Perez· Host0:47

    It's summer in 1973. [upbeat music] About nine million people in the US are tuning into the Dick Cavett Show, the number two television program in the country.

  4. Harvey Averne· Guest1:00

    The Dick Cavett Show. [upbeat music] Ladies and gentlemen, Dick Cavett.

  5. Rosie Perez· Host1:05

    Dick Cavett wears a sophisticated checkered blazer, his hair perfectly combed to the side, perfect posture.

  6. Dick Cavett· Soundbite1:12

    That's wonderful. I'm not gonna bring out the other people. [laughs] Let's keep.

  7. Rosie Perez· Host1:16

    Dick was known for his wit, and as an intellectual in the late night TV circuit, unafraid to bring controversial guests and topics.

  8. Dick Cavett· Soundbite1:25

    Dear Dick, when are you going to have Geraldo Rivera on again? I loved him the last time he was on.

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