#48: Why Brooke Averick Used Her Own Anxiety in Phoebe Berman’s Gonna Lose It
5/28/202647 min
This week on Off The Shelf, Morgann sits down with Brooke Averick to talk about her debut novel Phoebe Berman’s Gonna Lose It, going from teaching preschool to building a career online, and why writing a book felt more intimidating than going viral. Brooke opens up about imposter syndrome, pulling from her own experiences with anxiety, BookTok favourites, and the story behind bringing Phoebe to life.
CHAPTERS:
0:30 - Introduction
1:08 - What is Brooke obsessed with right now?
2:35 - Brooke’s Teaching & Creator Career
5:25 - Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast
6:55 - Entering BookTok
14:10 - Phoebe Berman’s Gonna Lose It
31:10 - FIRSTS Rapid Fire
36:30 - Book Cover Design
39:55 - Brooke’s Favourite Books
46:00 - What’s Next?
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First 90 secondsMorgann Book· Host0:00
First book that made you ugly cry.
Brooke Averick· Guest0:02
Maybe the Harry Potters.
Morgann Book· Host0:04
Oh, yeah.
Brooke Averick· Guest0:05
I think I had a really hard time with, like falling in love with characters and then having them killed off.
Morgann Book· Host0:09
With which death?
Brooke Averick· Guest0:10
With... Well, most, but- [laughs] ... Sirius I had a really hard time with.
Morgann Book· Host0:14
Oh, yeah.
Brooke Averick· Guest0:14
And then, was it Fred or George?
Morgann Book· Host0:16
I don't remember- One of them ... but one of them Whichever twin died- Yeah ...
Brooke Averick· Guest0:19
I was like, "Absolutely not."
Morgann Book· Host0:20
Yes.
Brooke Averick· Guest0:20
And Hedwig. Oh my God.
Morgann Book· Host0:22
Oh, [laughs] that was bad.
Brooke Averick· Guest0:23
That, that might've been the worst. Yeah.
Morgann Book· Host0:24
That one was, that happened so quickly, and I didn't remember it from the book, and I was just like- Oh, and Dobby. [laughs] Oh.
Brooke Averick· Guest0:31
[laughs] Oh, Dobby might've been the worst one.
Morgann Book· Host0:32
[upbeat music] Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Off the Shelf. Today, I'm sitting down with Brooke Averick, an internet personality who is best known as Lady F. Ron. She is also the co-host of Brooke and Connor Make a Podcast, and most recently, the debut author of Phoebe Berman's Gonna Lose It, a story about a woman with intimacy and relationship anxiety who is determined to lose her virginity by her 30th birthday. Brooke, welcome to Off the Shelf.
Brooke Averick· Guest1:00
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so happy to be here.
Morgann Book· Host1:02
Thank you for coming in. Now, we have to do a bit of an ode to your Obsessed podcast.
Brooke Averick· Guest1:07
Okay.
Morgann Book· Host1:08
What are you obsessed with right now?
Brooke Averick· Guest1:10
Ooh. I am obsessed... I'm actually obsessed with the Crescent City series right now.
Morgann Book· Host1:17
What book are you on?
Brooke Averick· Guest1:18
I'm on the third.
Morgann Book· Host1:19
Oh, good for you. Oh my God.
Brooke Averick· Guest1:21
[laughs] I... Yeah. What are you say- you're not, you weren't into it?
Morgann Book· Host1:23
No, I loved it.
Brooke Averick· Guest1:24
Okay.
Morgann Book· Host1:24
That third book, 1,000 pages, maybe.
Brooke Averick· Guest1:27
Oh, absolutely.
Morgann Book· Host1:28
I'm