289. Better with Age: Why Joy Matters More Than Longevity
5/18/202628 min
A full life isn’t about the quantity of time, but the quality.
Our lifespan might describe how long we live, but it doesn’t say anything about how well we live. For that, Kerry Burnight says, we need a different measure: joyspan.
Burnight is a gerontologist, former professor of geriatric medicine, and author of Joyspan: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life's Second Half. In her decades working with older adults, she noticed a gap: “I would have a lot of people who lived long lives and were in pretty darn good physical health. They were miserable.” That observation led her to dig into the research on well-being — and to find what it takes to enjoy a long life, not just endure one.
In this episode of Think Fast, Talk Smart, Burnight joins host Matt Abrahams to explore her joyspan framework, explaining how growth, connection, adapting, and giving contribute to a full life. From changing the conversation around aging to communicating more effectively across generations, Burnight offers practical wisdom for living better at any age.
Episode Reference Links:
- Dr. Kerry Burnight
- Kerry’s Book: Joyspan
- Ep.176 From Stereotypes to Synergy: Communicating Across Generations
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Chapters:
- (00:00) - Introduction
- (03:21) - Defining Joyspan
- (05:28) - The Joyspan Matrix
- (11:04) - Learning to Adjust
- (11:58) - The Power of Stories
- (15:39) - Internalized Ageism
- (18:41) - The Final Three Questions
- (26:00) - Conclusion
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First 90 secondsMatt Abrahams· Host0:00
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