#2529 - Zach Bush

Joe Rogan· Host0:01

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Zach Bush· Guest0:14

Stick, I'll stick with the water for now.

Joe Rogan· Host0:16

Okay.

Zach Bush· Guest0:16

I never figured out how to do the coffee thing.

Joe Rogan· Host0:17

You never figured out coffee?

Zach Bush· Guest0:19

No.

Joe Rogan· Host0:19

Really?

Zach Bush· Guest0:20

Do tea things.

Joe Rogan· Host0:21

Well- Drink tea almost non-stop ... tea's nice. Tea's probably better for you, I guess. But man, it's so hard to know. Well, here, I'll ask you because, uh, you're a health expert.

Zach Bush· Guest0:30

[laughs] [laughs] It's right there.

Joe Rogan· Host0:30

How convenient. Because there's all this, uh, conflicting information about coffee. Like some people say coffee's really good for you, it's like an amazing antioxidant, and it has all these positive health benefits. And other people say, "No, it dehydrates you, it's bad for you, it's too much caffeine, it's bad for your..." What do you think?

Zach Bush· Guest0:48

I mean, I think this is one of the next advancements of humankind. We're gonna stop demonizing anything nature's provided, and we're gonna start looking at our relationship to it instead. And I think it's fundamentally your relationship to coffee that's gonna determine whether it's a health benefit or detrimental to who you are. There's been so many fad diets, so many fad moments, and the science has never supported any of it. The science is always looking at the human system as if it's an isolated system, then studies the impact of a chemical, caffeine or otherwise, on it. You're not an isolated system, and so if coffee is part of a complex ecosystem of your microbiome, the soil systems of your body, then it's gonna supercharge you into