1776 | America 250: What the Culture Says | 2
6/18/202637 min
What does a country sing about when it can't agree on its own founding? Why has Hollywood, which will film literally anything, never made a great movie about 1776? And when both the Black Lives Matter marchers and the January 6th rioters claim to be the true heirs of the Declaration of Independence, who actually owns the revolution?
From Hamilton's founding hustlers to Beyoncé's cowboys to a White House captioning a royal portrait "two kings," Peter and Afua track the Declaration through the culture that keeps remixing it — and a country that still can't agree on what it says.
[0:00] Two riots, one document, and everyone insisting they're the real sons of liberty
[3:10] How a hip-hop musical about a slaveholding revolution became the biggest thing on Broadway
[7:49] The friend Afua had to physically stop from walking out of Hamilton
[12:27] An empty thousand-seat cinema, and the one Melania line worth hearing
[16:00] The first American cowboys came from West Africa — and Beyoncé knows it
[19:14] Why Hollywood will green-light anything except 1776
[23:36] The protest movement that refuses to say Trump's name
[32:13] The day the White House posted a photo and called it "two kings"
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Peter Frankopan· Host0:30
We are just weeks away from the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence in the United States. It's supposed to be a moment of great national unity and celebration.
Afua Hirsch· Host0:43
But instead, the legacy of 1776 has become one of the most fierce battlegrounds in modern politics. It's a fight not over a document written 250 years ago, but over the very DNA of the United States.
Peter Frankopan· Host1:01
So today we're doing another episode looking at some of the legacies of the Declaration of Independence and of the arguments about the control of the narrative about where the United States has come from, which of course means where the United States is and where it's going to be going. Does the American story begin with world-changing ideals of liberty and freedom, or is it fundamentally rooted in the brutal economics of human exploitation and inequality?
Afua Hirsch· Host1:26
We are exploring how this historical debate